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Several weeks ago, a Calafornya woman gave birth to the second liveing set of Octuplits' in the US. The mother, Nadia Solmin alreddy has six other children, and get this, no dad in the picture period! All her children were brought into this world via fertility treatments, with sperm donated by a former co worker. Nither Solman or her children have any contact with him. Her children rainge in age from 7 down to 2 year old twins. Now I'm not nocking people that do fertility treatments, how ever I do have a problem with a woman chuseing to have six children that the state is suporting, and then go and get inplanted with eight more embrios. Though's pore children have no father at all, and no other role moddle's that are mail. Nadia is liveing with her mother in a 2 bedroom house, wile her father went back to the middle east to make munny for though's 14 children that the grand mother is careing for wile Nadia is in the hospital. Nither Nadia or her mother have jobs. This woman is asking for $2000000 for an interview. To me it seems like she is an atenchen seecker and a baby horder. Also I thihnk I should and make my self clear, I am not nocking anyone that has children with out being married, but I think that the father should be in the lives of his children to a degree. Menny people are questioning ritely what kind of doctore would put such a large amount of embrios back into a woman period. It will be intristing to see what happens with this liveing sope opra.
Pleas jump in with your appinions.
Right! It's the fact that there's no father in the picture, and that the woman's expecting her father, and the state to support her 14 puppies! Some people just need to get a grip.
I concur! Shit like this should be outlawed. People think they can just have kids and mooch off of other people. That's pretty damn ridiculous! She shouldn't be allowed to have any more children. I know that's a bit much, but she's ridiculous, and people just shouldn't be allowed to do things like this.
Let's have her spayed. Haha
There's a Doctor Phil episode on it tomorrow. So, I suggest you watch that for more insight. I guess the reason she's in all this mess is because she has issues with being an only child. She said she was lonely and depressed all her life and that's why she wanted so many kids.
i feel sorry for her.
first, money must be a real issue, supporting all those kids is hard work.
secondly, she's got no help, so she's going through this alone
thirdly, her house must be mad... can you just picture it!. it wouldn't surprise me if she gave some of them up for adoption, or even eventually have a breakdown because she just won't be able to cope
omg shit! how can you feel sorry for a woman who made a conchous decition to have all thoes children, and is expecting everyone else to pay for them? all the children should be taken away from her, or she should be made to give some up for adoption. it's not fare for her parents or for the people of America to have to pay for them, specially her parents. they didn't decide to have them, she did. so it's up to her to pay for her children, and also up to the father of the children as well. it's also fucked up for her to bring 8 more into the world, after already having 6 children before, who she couldn't provide for on her own. that to me is selfish.
It's unfair on the kids, bloody rediculous, and at the very least her motives ought to be questioned. Absolutely, completely and utterly stupid. What the hell is wrong with people? And I agree with Liz. Feel sorry for her? What the hell for! lmao Jesse has the right idea, let's have her spayed indeed.
For once it appears dr Phil agrees with me. I think the doctor who implanted those eggs should be responsible for some,or all, of the cost of raising those kids. The co worker who donated sperm (co-worker, how can she work with 6 kids already?) may be partly but I think it is up to the doctor and the health system in general to explain the risks and, more importantly, to evaluate the individual cases and live up to their standards on when to help. After all adoption is a huge process, costly with interviews and psychological evaluations and such, I don't see why using artificial means to help a woman have a baby should not be subject to the same,or similar, standards.
You know what? Issues of being an only child does not give one any right, nor excuse to have done what this woman had done. I don't feel sorry for her in the least. I think the woman needs to find a way to support her kids. There's plenty of jobs she could do from home to at least make an effort. I'm not saying she'll be able to support them all the way, but come on! Effort's nice, and the rest can be paid for by her doctor, who should have his medical license revoked, and the sperm donor, who's just an absolute moron for helping her after she had her first 6. I have no pity for morons!
I heard last night on the news that the state of California is being asked to pay the hospital bills for these kids. What the hell? All 50 states are in deep financial debt already, and the government is already helping way too many businesses bail out, and now this stupid woman who just had to have 14 brats wants to be bailed out?
Bloody hell! Yes, it is all bloody ridiculous, not to mention outrageous the doctor who made the very unwise, notr to mention unfair decision for Suleman's mother, not to mention the other 6 brothers and sisters, the eldest of whom will almost certainly have to pitch in and grow up bloody quickly to help out with these 8 babies through absolutely no fault of their own, to implant 8 or even more embryos back in Suleman's womb so she wound up having octuplets. I wouldn't be at all surprised if he wasn't struck off the medical register for what he's brought on this family. Brandy, being an only child has absolutely nothing to do with the fact Nadia Suleman wanted these children. Ok, she might have been an only child herself, but then, I am an only child myself. Mum had to go back to work more or less as soon as she'd seen me through my first few months of life, so effectively, I was raised by my Grandparents and the teachers and care staff when I had to go away to Boarding School and then to College 12 years later. Does that mean then, that as I'm an only child, I want loads and loads of kids to keep me company and so I don't get lonely? no, it does not. I have a fairly supportive family living very close by as things stand just now, but I also have a very close circle of friends made when I was in Secondary School, plus some of their friends which led to my being introduced to my own new boyfriend, soon hopefully, to be fiance, Kris Whawell (think BlindCoolTech.com here guys) He has been my rock when I needed him when I've been going through hard times here at home, bless him, plus stuff going on in Nottingham where we're hoping to relocate when we can find a decent place to rent. The future's looking very bright for us, I could see me and Kris being together for years to come as things stand now, but, I don't want 8 kids to get us back on the topic of the octuplets. 4 maximum, multiples included, then a hysterectomy after the birth of the 4th child. That will be the end of that phase of my life apart from bringing up that last baby and its other two or three brothers or sisters. No Ivf blunders for us if we can help it, thank you and goodnight, lol.
Jen.
What I want to know is: Why would you go and get pregnant again after having the first six. Aren't six enough? And not to mention the fact that three of these first six children are disabled. Now she's got 8 more and these babies could end up with disabilities too. Unbelieveable! Just unbelieveable!! I agree that all 14 of these poor, innocent babies needs to be given up for adoption to families who can actually provide safe loving homes for them. This woman is clearly psychotic and needs professional help.
Brandy, I'm afraid you miss the point. If they're adopted out, she gets off free! She needs to take complete responsibility for her kids. I hear people say, "She doesn't want to." I say make her! Put her, and the children somewhere they can be supervised, make her sorry rear end work a job, and take care of her kids. She made her bed, now she can lie in it.
I am so glad you guys agree with me! All these morons at my church are fealing sorry for her, and can you dig it, are going to offer there services to help her. What the heack? Granted there stay at home moms, but still! After watching the Dr. Phill show this afternune I have made my mind up. Adoption is the only way that this disaster can be fixed. Even if the woman is a stupid brainsucking black hole of blackmail and shady dealings, though's 14 children could make 14 family's vary happy. Because for one reson or another they desided not to become lab exparaments. I am still outraged that when the Dr. who deliverd the eight little exparemants he diddn't go a hed and snip her toobs. That family is not liveing in safe, sanatarie, or sane liveing condisions. That pore grandma that takes care of all though's other little children that Nadya has at home is relacated to the coutch wile her grandchildren and her own daughter sleep in her bed and the other 2 bedrooms of the cramped little house. I hope Ms. Nadya frys in the lowist pits of hell with Saddom whosane and adolf hitler. They'll be in good companie.
I forgot to menchen that the grandma keeps telling everyone that she's tired of takeing care of her grandchildren, and how she disagree's with Nadya's desisions to have so menny. But what Dr. Phill didn't menchen is that this hole situation could really be blamed on Nadya's parents. True the sistom I think was giveing her phertility treatments for free, maby she gave the mail doc some insentive? I don't no. But if her mother and father had put there foots down like responcable sane parents would they would have said, HELL NO WILL YOU BRING ALL YOUR 6 LITTLE SICENCE EXPERAMENTS INTO MY HOUSE!!!!!!!! YOUR GROWN ENOUGH TO MAKE ADULT DISISIONS, YOU ARE OLD ENOUGH TO TAKE THE CONSICUNCES!!!! I mean, just emagon the reaction that most of our parents would give us if we gave them that altimatom. So in a nutshell, her parents and this retarted amarican sistom are HUGE INNABLERS!
This is a woman that's a real, and almost literally, bitch. I think she should get a historrectomy. And the state's willing to pay for all fourteen of the things! Why? That bitch should be thrown in jail. This is ridiculous beyond belief!
this is just getting stupider every day! this woman does not deserve any of her children, because she can't take care of them by herself. i agree with some of the other posts to this board, she needs to be made to take care of them, or put them all up for adoption. like i said before, it's not up to the grandparents or the state to take care of these children at all. they didn't have them so i don't see why this baby-hor is making them foot the bill, and the father should be made to pay for his children, co-worker or not...if he's a man he'll face up to his 14 responsibilities, because it's obvious that the mother can't.
something which no one here has mentioned is that the hyena mascarading as mum is begging and acting as though she is entitled for donations and support. 'xcuse me, but gifts are given not demanded. Her publicist needs a fist up pside his head. Medical, the california medical assistance, is the most financially strapped in the country. doesn't this pack of idiots realize that what they are demanding for themselves is being taken away from others? Someone in n accident might not get treatment because of these babies mega bills. signing off before my brain explodes....
This woman doesn't sound like she is of a mental state where she should be having one child, let alone 14. And yet, in an interview she did, she said not having children was selfish. Um, I'd rather be, "selfish," by not having kids at all, by recognizing that I wouldn't make a good parent, instead of having so many. The ones I feel sorry for in all this mess are those kids. They didn't ask for any of this, and they are the ones who will suffer most because of their mother's extreme stupidity.
Your absolutely rite sister dawn! The dumb hyena made sure to make it nown in interviews that she had all these children because she had a deprived childhood, there fore having lots of kids will fill the aicking empty voide left by being an only child. Um hello? I thought you had kids because you love kids or wish to make darn sure there are more smart people in the world... Children should NEVER be brought into the world with a job like that. I question the commen sence of the Dr. that alowd her to get pregnant, wile noing her resons. Also the question that everyone is not asking is if she has no job, how is she managing to pay the insemanation bills? I did alittle resurch, and 1 time of IVF is about $20000. This hole situation stinks to high hevin!
If the interviews I've heard are true, she used the disability money she was getting, as well as the disability money she gets on behalf on two of her kids who are autistic, I believe, to pay for the IVF procedures. Also, now the state of California is being told to pay the hospital bills for the octuplets. I'm sure the state will bear much of the cost for raising those kids, as well. It's a damned shame.
where the fuck is child protective services? Or some kind of adoption agency? couldn't the grandmother do something like call those people so the kids can be placed in to loving homes?
I think they'd need proof of actual abuse or neglect going on before Child Protective Services will intervene. Now, with 14 kids, I imagine they'll get their proof eventually, though I'm afraid of what those kids will have to suffer before that occurs. Unfortunately, having a psycho for a mother isn't proof enough yet.
isn't using the money meant for the audtistic children to pay for your own IVF fraud? i know in the UK it would be seen as such if it could be prooven. come on you fat asses lawyers, sort this shit out rather than taking companies to cort on behalf of those dumb asses who cannot work out that freshly made coffee is hot for instance
as much as i hate to admit it, octoplet mom's creative use of funds would be hard to prove. unless fertile myrtle's mom were willing to turn states evidence against her daughter it would be hard to pinpoint what money was used for what. since grandma has the spine of a jellyfish we know how much will get done from her end. sorry to sound cynical
i agree with SisterDawn. this baby-hor had children for the wrong reasons. kids aren't meant to fill a hole because your an only child! that's not the babies fault that she was, maby her mother couldn't for some reason, have anymore kids, but that doesn't give this baby-hor the right to keep bringing children into this world, and then expecting! the state, and her own parents to pay for them. if she was any responsible parent, she would have stopped having kids a long time ago, but obviously she either doesn't care about her children, or just wants to live off the state and her parents.
First off, this woman is selfish as many people are.
Second, not only has she spent great amounts of money on children, but she has also received several plastic surgeries. She's obsessed with Angelina Jollee and has tried unsuccessfully to look like her. Unbefuckinglievable!
Also, I don't think the father should be nailed. He may have provided sperm, but he did not put the eggs inside her. The doctor did. Nail him! Why on This Earth would you implant a woman with eight eggs! He should pay for her kiddies.
Too, I've recently done research on California's unemployment for economics. California is currently unable to pay many of its bills. To bail out small businesses, the state is going to dip into nineteen state funds that were inaccessible to internal borrowing. Why doesn't the state just fall off the continent! Goodness gracious.
These babies didn't askto have a crazy self-indulging mother. Therefore, why should they have to suffer in her hands? I could just see her going off the deep-end pulling an Andrea Yates. Then the whole country will wonder why they never put those kids in loving adoptive homes where they could've avoided all that insanity in the first place. I understand that putting the kids in adoptive homes is allowing her to get away with things, but she's irrational and psychotic and doesn't deserve these precious children. It's not just because she has so many or that she doesn't have a job that gets to me. What gets to me is the reason she got impregnated again and again, and that's all because she was an only child and felt lonely. So she indulges herwhims and has14 babies and can't provide a reasonable living environment for them. The other thing that convinces me that she's a total freakis the fact that she expects the world to hand her the money to raise these children. She expects to go on Oprah and all those news channels or whatever and get publicity and pity for something that she had more than a modecum of control over.
okay, yeah, the doctor should be held responsible for allowing this freak show to continue having children, but, unless he was the sperm donator to, they're not his children to support. it'd be different if we didn't kno that the sperm donator was a ko-worker, and was just some random person, but the fact is that this bitch knew who she was getting the sperm from, and he knew what she was intending to do with it. the doctor should be struck off for his part, and he should pay for the hospital bills, sure, but like i said, these poor children are not his to have to pay for.
well why doesn't the co worker help out? everyone is encouraging the doctor to take responsibility, but what about coworker. of course, he may be as flakey as the mom is, which would be deffinitely not a goood thing
The children should be put up for adoption. Taking her children away from her would be more of a punishment for her, then making her take care of them. I mean, look! They're in her care and aren't being cared for properly. Take them away from her, put her in jail, then she'll really be lonely.
I'm not for her taking care of the children. That would be punishing them. And they didn't choose to be brought into this madhouse of a world.
All right people, update on this topic.
Forget all about slamming the father, he may have provided the sperm, but this very day, I found out some shocking information.
I was just watching the Dr. Phil show. It turns out that the father and grandparents of these children all asked the doctor not to inject Nadia with the rest of the eggs. The doctor promised he wouldn't. And look what happened! This is most definitely not a mistake.
Also, some of her children were interviewed, and they don't even want these eight babies to come home.
Members of this woman's church are banding together to help her raise these children. This is a good thing, but there's still not enough room in this three-bedroom, two-bathroom house. Will the members be willing to "take in" some of these children into their own homes?
This situation is getting way out of hand. It's a shame when the government's gotta but in when it comes to the number of children a woman is allowed to have, but they should. A woman should only be allowed this number of children in these particular circumstances. That's just how it's going to have to be. This woman and her doctor crossed the line. They overstepped it by a mile!